Vitalik discusses DAO advancement: How to solve the inefficiency of voting and the governance gamification dilemma

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【Blockchain Rhythm】Ethereum founder Vitalik recently shared a thought-provoking view — current DAOs are not good enough. He believes that to truly expand Ethereum from the base layer to the application layer, the key is not in the technology itself, but in building more and higher-quality DAO organizations.

Why? Because the current token voting mechanism suffers from inefficiency and is easily captured by capital. Vitalik detailed the core application scenarios of DAOs: oracle selection, on-chain dispute resolution, list maintenance, project initiation and maintenance, etc. He also introduced the concepts of “convex” and “concave” problems to distinguish different decision-making scenarios — different types of issues require different governance design approaches.

However, there are two major obstacles. Vitalik admits: “Without privacy protection, governance becomes a social game; without reducing decision fatigue, participants will keep dropping out.” In other words, privacy and decision burden have become the two main pain points hindering DAO democratization. Solving these two issues is essential to truly enable decentralized governance.

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AlwaysMissingTopsvip
· 01-21 19:45
Here comes again, V God is giving a lesson on DAO, he's right but still too idealistic DAO voting is really hard to describe, privacy privacy privacy, always emphasizing it, but the reality is everyone can see who voted for what, capital crushing retail investors has been going on for more than a day I truly feel the decision fatigue. After more projects start voting, I begin to lazy to look, anyway I can't change most decisions, so I just don't participate. This is the tragedy of DAO The convex-concave problem sounds high-level, but in practice, it's just various compromises --- Vitalik said without privacy, it becomes a social game. Isn't that the current situation? It's been like that for a long time haha --- So is the gamification of governance essentially because there are too few participants? Or does the transparency of the chain itself determine it? --- Alright, let's keep waiting to see new DAO models. Anyway, there are no good solutions at the moment --- Privacy protection + reducing decision-making costs sounds simple, but can it be implemented? I always feel it's an eternal paradox
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SorryRugPulledvip
· 01-21 07:40
Haha, it's that same argument of "DAO governance needs optimization" again. It sounds nice, but in reality, it's the whales who call the shots. Privacy? That's laughable. When everything on the chain is transparent, what's the point of privacy protection? It's just fooling ourselves. It's normal for participants to fall behind. Most people don't care about voting at all; they just want airdrops—that's the real truth.
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TradingNightmarevip
· 01-19 21:05
Nice words, but it still can't escape the old trick of "big players call the shots"
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FloorSweepervip
· 01-19 07:39
lol vitalik finally admitting daos are mostly theater... yeah no shit, been saying this since 2021 when every randos' governance token was just a pump & dump scheme. privacy in voting? that's cute, the whales already know what everyone's voting for anyway. decision fatigue is real tho, most people just hit approve on whatever proposal the largest bag holder pushes through 💀
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DataBartendervip
· 01-19 07:38
DAO sounds nice in theory, but in reality, it's just big players calling the shots. Most people don't have the energy to participate at all, and in the end, they're just being exploited. Vitalik's idealism? Privacy? Gamified governance? None of it can be truly achieved. Token voting has been a false proposition from the start—money and power dominate. So, in the end, it still comes down to a combination of technology and incentive mechanisms. When will DAO truly become decentralized? It's still a one-man show.
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NFTRegrettervip
· 01-19 07:30
To be honest, this set of theories sounds so reasonable yet so heartbreaking... The statement that DAO voting is just a social game really hits the nerve.
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LayerZeroHerovip
· 01-19 07:30
DAO voting is essentially a game of human nature; privacy is indeed a pain point. Otherwise, it would just be celebrities lining up to show off.
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DegenWhisperervip
· 01-19 07:28
Oh no, it's that same theory again. The words sound nice, but in practice... most DAOs are just easily manipulated by big players. Privacy + decision fatigue are really tough hurdles. Voting is like stock trading; whoever gets the most votes makes the call. The convex-concave problem sounds profound, but it just seems like another governance framework. In the end, it's still capital that decides. I feel that instead of optimizing governance mechanisms, aligning participant interests should be the real key. In the realm of DAO, it seems like we're always working on governance improvements but never solving the fundamental issues. Privacy can't be guaranteed, so it naturally becomes a social game.
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GasFeeBarbecuevip
· 01-19 07:25
Basically, DAO voting now is like bargaining at a vegetable market—whoever shouts the loudest wins.
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